Quinton “Rampage” Jackson Vs. Forrest Griffin UFC 86 Video
UFC 86 - “Jackson vs. Griffin” fight video of Quinton “Rampage” Jackson Vs. Forrest Griffin.
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Rampage was robbed. He delivered more solid punches. all Forrest got going was goin to the knee.
Agree….Rampage had won. It was close but got to give it to rampage. Forest did NOT BEAT the champ…..he MIGHT have tied but no way did he win.
It was close, and, normally you have to ‘take it’ from the champ. Forrest was out of range with the majority of his punches, and Rampage, when he did make contact, hit with the more effective punches. Too close to call.
Lots of money to be made in a rematch
muy bien en tener la pelea enseguida pero que no tenga la desicion de los jueces no existe , no se sabe quien gana ,no les costaba mucho grabar un poquito mas .fuera eso la pagina muy bien
things just get easier for chuck and silva . thought it was of a draw. by what ever . ufc gave one to forrest he did do a great job congrats to forrest. though rampage did more damage. clean shots. iceman will ko rashawed evens and then ko griffen . then there will be liddel silva 2
That was a wanderful fight!!! both fighters did a good job, and even though i´m a Rampage fan and i like his stand up, head game, etc… Forrest Griffin was way more aggressive and explossive and he gave so much from himself. Good fight, very very good fight, Rampage is a monster he survived all the second round, he is a real warrior and even i feel sad cause he lost, i also feel happy for this awesome fight!
anyone found the end clip when they make the decision? I’d love to se the fighters reactions and speeches
How can anyone say rampage won that fight? Griffin won 49-46. rampage won the 1st and griffin dominated the 2nd for a 10-8 round,griffin won the 4th and 5th
Wandy destroyed the bananas easy!!
Those who think griffin lost, don’t know mma…Griffin one that fight fare and square. The knee strikes, he had ground control the whole second round, which eventually lead to a mount. Then the fourth he got him in a triangle, he did’nt finish it but that’s points. The only time rampage did any damage in the third when he knocked forrest to the ground, he could not control forrest, and he got to his feet…There are some more points. Forrest has a chin, and he just wanted it more then rampage..Yeah it looked like rampage did more damage, but griffin cuts real easy. So you can’t base your opiniion on that..Forrest had some near submissions, knee strikes, and controlled the ground game, and he showed off his ability to take a punch…For you chuck fans he has a long road back, he is nowhere near a title shot. forrest’s next oppt will be an up and coming star. then rampage will get another shot eventually. Maybe silva but I love chuck but he has dropped significantly with his last couple of fights..rashaad is getting better and better…The new blood in the ufc is rising.
Country boy, man that country boy. Way to go Forrest, been rootin for ya for awhile, glad to see ya make it to the big show and win it.
Wow…
And I used to think you guys knew your MMA/
1. Great fight, both fighters should be commended, but you have to beat the champ, to become the champ, Forrest did not beat the champ!
2. Round 1, Rampage, Round 2, Forrest… Rounds 3, 4, and 5 toss ups… lets review the criteria:
Effective Aggressiveness… Forrest, no doubt he brought the fight to Rampage.
Clean / Scoring blows… Rampage, Forrest was more active, but Rampage scored all of the scoring blows… Forrest had a few kicks, but that was it.
Ground Game… Except for the 2nd round, it was Rampage that took Forrest down. You can’t give Forrest points for a triangle he couldn’t lock? More so, Rampage is known for letting opponents get the triangle, and then slamming them out… which is exactly what happend! Rampage won the ground game.
3. Again, you have to beat the champ to become the champ, and in this case, the champ was robbed. A close fight, but close fights are supposed to go to the champ.
However, I’m not too upset with the decision, because Rampage had ample opportunity to close down Griffin’s kicking distance, and never did… he was not the aggressor, and with the match that close, a real champ takes the last two minutes of the round. He never did, so shame on him for allowing the judges to rob him!
I wanted Rampage to win as well, but he lost. He lost in points. Just b/c his punches were connected solidly doesn’t mean he deserve the win. Forrest got more action in and controlled most of those rounds. 1st and 5th one goes to Rampage. 2nd one Rampage got dominated and mounted. 3 and forth 4 looked like Rampage was staying away from Forest. Forest had the upper hand in the standup utilizing the leg kick, and his Jujitsu was better as well.
If Forrest wanted to, he could have ended the fight in the 3rd or 4th by continuing with the leg kick, but he probably wanted to give the fans a more exciting fight and layed off of the leg kicks. And winning by leg kicks is still winning.
HAHA! I knew it! I knew Forrest was going to win I’ve been saying this all along. Fight was going to be rigged! A lot of money was put or bet on this HUGE FIGHT! Forrest came in this fight as the underdog while Rampage on the other hand everyone was expecting to win! Certain “High Powered” figures who work behind the scene knows this, and they also know that money was to be made here by setting up a bullsh*t fight!
The critics will say,” Well if it’s so obvious, why risk doing something like rigging an event as big as this?” My answer is , because you will have the clowns who ask those type of questions to contradict one another! Or to contradict my reason for the decision making in this Title Bout!
Good Example, Boxing. The UFC is it’s REPLACEMENT it was only a matter of time when these CORRUPT & QUESTIONABLE Politics would finally one day catch up!
Rampage won that fight! Most idiots will say Forrest was busy with the leg kicks, LOL what about the times Rampage knocked Forrest out! Those don’t count!
Forrest was technical? He scurried in a hurry every time Rampage Unloaded on him! Rampage didn’t throw as many punches as Forrest, but for the ones he did ALMOST ALL CONNECTED! TWICE KNOCKED OUT FORREST, EVEN IF BRIEFLY ! IDIOTS!
Rampage Won the 1st Round , Lost the 2nd, Won the 3rd, 4th and 5th Round! Stop being idiots! Rampage WON and that’s the plain fact!
Good job Forrest,I picked rampage over leddel,and i picked forrest over rampage,rampage did not fight his fight,and he paid for it,anyone that disputes that fight is just mad,forrest won that fight by picking him apart and staying focused,its ashame how rampage will have to find a new trainer.if he is nice maybe forrest will train him.
point for point… Griffin won this fight. It was very close, that’s for certain. But notice that, aside from the uppercut in the first, Rampage didn’t rock him in any way. And when you consider that Griffin took an entire round (from the champ I might add), and Rampage didn’t dominate in any round, that alone gives Griffin the match. And he deserved it. Congrats.
I THINK RAMPAGE WON FOR SURE. I WAS SO PISSED OFF THAT I LITERALLY TURNED OFF THE TELEVISION THE SECOND THE DECISION WAS ANNOUNCED.
I swear I will never pay for another UFC event, I used to order about every other fight card or so…
SCREW THAT MESS
Rampage clearly won that fight, I don’t even feel the need to go into the specifics, it was that obvious.
The UFC is freaking rigged or something man, bribed judges or something man… unbelievable….
wheres the end of the vid?
any links with results / reactions?
Great fight excellent exchanges between both fighter and great determination between them both,
They both got good solid blows on eachother griffin landing them gnarly leg kicks which looked like it affected rampages ability to throw power like he usally does, but jackson still recovered,
great strikes between them first round griffin landed more and was the agressor for 4 minutes of the first round til Rampage caught him with the counter uppercut almost a variation of what he threw at chuck but he didnt seem to have griffin vary worried forrest worked his way up to some more decent exchanges
1st round: Forrest Griffin, i say that because the only significant thing rampage did was back up and land that counter uppercut forrest was the aggressor like it or not.
2nd round: Griffin all the way landed some ugly Kicks to rampages leg/knee nearly swept him off his feet and controlled the round on the ground like it or not again griffin won this round 10-8 dominantly,
3rd Round: Rampage, he controlled most of the round would have got a 10 8 round if he was succesful with the slam had forrest not slid off ever so slightly, Rampage took that round with more solid striking then griffin in the 3rd even though it looked like griffin locked in a triangle,
4th Round: Griffin, Again close round but griffin was the aggressor of the round again and looked like he had a strike of his own everytime rampage seemed to throw one at him very close round tho Forrest 10-9,
5th Round: Extremely Close to call this round but Rampage was backing away for more then half the round which makes forrest the aggressor again, still some good exchanges griffin threw some knees that looked like had rampage hurt for a moment close round Griffin 10-9
i had the fight 49-46 same as 2 of the judges it could have been 49-47 still to griffin tho rampage is the champ and if your the champ u have to win in a fashion that shows you were the dominant one in the fight, therefore rampage didnt forefill Forrest Griffin is your new LightHeavyweight Champion i cant wait for Griffin vs Lyoto or Griffin Rampage 2 GREAT FIGHT
I dont get that “rampage was robbed” bs, if you get you knee kicked to pieces and then gets taken down and cant manage to get up, you lost the fight. Its about winning, not looking good fighting, you know what im sayin? Bottomline: Forrest fought rampage and won. The king is dead, long live the king!
HAHA! I knew it! I knew Forrest was going to win I’ve been saying this all along. Fight was going to be rigged! A lot of money was put or bet on this HUGE FIGHT! Forrest came in this fight as the underdog while Rampage on the other hand everyone was expecting to win! Certain “High Powered” figures who work behind the scene knows this, and they also know that money was to be made here by setting up a bullsh*t fight!
The critics will say,” Well if it’s so obvious, why risk doing something like rigging an event as big as this?” My answer is , because you will have the clowns who ask those type of questions to contradict one another! Or to contradict my reason for the decision making in this Title Bout!
Good Example, Boxing. The UFC is it’s REPLACEMENT it was only a matter of time when these CORRUPT & QUESTIONABLE Politics would finally one day catch up!
Rampage won that fight! Most idiots will say Forrest was busy with the leg kicks, LOL what about the times Rampage knocked Forrest out! Those don’t count!
Forrest was technical? He scurried in a hurry every time Rampage Unloaded on him! Rampage didn’t throw as many punches as Forrest, but for the ones he did,
ALMOST ALL CONNECTED! TWICE DROPPED FORREST ONCE IN THE FIRST ROUND AND THAN 2ND IN THE 3RD ROUND WITH THE UPPERCUT , EVEN IF BRIEFLY !! THOSE DO NOT COUNT FOR ANYTHING?!?
Forrest Griffin - Landed a good majority of kicks to Rampage’s Leg/Knee Area
- Dominated 2nd Round
- That’s about it.
Rampage Jackson - Threw more accurate & damaging Blows
- Dropped Forrest Griffin Twice!
- Made Forrest Griffin regret every time he tried to go toe to toe.
- Was starting to show sign of injury end of Round 1 and all of
Round 2, but shook it off the rest of the fight.
- Gave Forrest Griffin a new facial makeover! (Blow Fish)
- Reducing liters of Blood from Forrest Griffin’s organs!
- 1st, 3rd, 4th & 5th Round Kept feeding Forrest Griffin Blows
after Blows.
Rampage Won the 1st Round , Lost the 2nd, Won the 3rd, 4th and 5th Round! Stop being idiots! Rampage WON and that’s the plain fact! To say otherwise just means you must not like Blacks. ( Black man held the title for way to long eh?)
Note: I’m not Black, but still have the intelligence to see that Rampage got done dirty!
are you people that stupid? to to not notice the 2 times he dropped Forrest
Griffin? Did you not see whenever they both went toe to toe the punches that
Rampage was landing faded Griffin? Did you not see him scurry ? Did you not
See his GOD DAMN FACE? FORREST GRIFFIN WANTED NOTHING OF
RAMPAGE! MORON!
RAMPAGE GOT ROBBED OFF HIS TITLE!
No he did not.
LOL watch the fight again you morons who think rampage lost ! Forrest Griffin was scared to get hit! IDIOTS! Forest Tried key word tried to throw combos , but as soon as Rampage started unloading he would scurry , and turn his back scared to get knocked again! Why because he got dropped twice!
STOP MAKING UP SH*T about Forrest Griffin doing this and that , that and this. The only thing he did was land kicks and dominated 2nd round! THAT’S IT! NOTHING MORE!
Stop throwing more stuff in it than there really was!
I am shocked that you guys think Forrest clearly won. I love forrest. But Rampage did do most damage. When I heard he lost I thought it was a knock out or a submission. You can’t tell me that what Forrest did deserved the win. Look at his face. I am not a simple onlooker. I am a fighter. I have beaten many guys twice my size. I can sympathize with Forrest, I like him can take a punch and pull out the victory. But this was clearly clearly won by the champ, he did more damage. And Forrest couldn’t even hurt him when he had him down on the mat for a whole round. But I do agree more money for the owners Rampage vs Forrest 2. They are always thinking ahead. No way that forrest beat Rampage. No Way.!!!!!
The fact that this was a championship fight makes a big difference. I just didn’t see a decisive win for Forrest. I think he had the opportunity, but played it safe. Let’s face it he’s a tactical fighter which sometimes does not make for a very exciting fight to watch. Not to take anything away from Forrest, I think he’s a smart fighter and a work horse, but how many of his fights went to the judges. So as for whether or not fans will actually pay to watch him fight? I just don’t think he has the Iceman or Rampage KO appeal.
I’m sure there will be a Rampage and Griffin 2. I think a Griffin vs Jardin 2 is in order, then Griffn vs Liddel, and if he makes it through that then Griffin vs Machida. Rampage then needs to get back in the mix with Silva, then Houston Alexander, then he should get another title fight. As for a pay for view worthy fights - Lyoto Machida vs Anderson Silva.
cannot wait wanderlei to fight griffin…griffin will die once he step to the octagon with wanderlei.
btw all you guys talking about clean shots landed should go back to boxing, it’s not about punching and punching alone. jackson did not slam forrest in the fourth, he tried but forrest let go of the triangle. so all jackson did was punch more effectively than forrest but thats all he did, not enough aggression. forrest punched, kicked, dont forget the knees, tried submissions, and was more aggressive overall….again, fight goes to forrest if not a draw.
so screw it to win matches in ufc now is about aggression LOL!
In UFC kicks are scored as more points than punches.
That’s why Griffin won.
Well all I could say is Machida is gonna eat them all..
Why should kicks be counted for more than punches. It’s easier to land a kick than to land a clean punch. You can block punches with your hands but with kicks it’s very hard to block them properly or get out of the way. Jackson landed more clean punches than Griffin got kicks.
If you’re going to base a face on aggression well than Tito easily beat Machida.
How can you say that the fight was rigged? All fights have to be judged and sometmes opinions vary from person to person. Forrest faught well and so did Rampage. Rampage hits hard fopr sure but he didn’t in any way dominate the fight. Forrest was the aggressor and was never stopped from bieng the aggressor. you can dissagree with the fight but dont get all pissed at a close call and say the whole league is rigged and the world is gonna end. thats retarded
In the post-fight press conference Jackson gives much respect to Forrest. He admits to being hurt by the leg kicks but is seriously deluded in thinking that he got the better of Forest on the ground. He “thinks” that he won the fight but doesn’t sound convincing and admits that he is going off of what his corner told him (wow, really?), says that Forrest won at least two rounds, and admits that he isn’t sure and needs to watch the video himself. He is calm, composed, respectful and humble in defeat and that should tell you something. Having watched Rampage for years now I am 100% certain that if he truly thought that he won the fight and was ripped off he would have been throwing a temper tantrum and speaking ill of Forrest, the officials, UFC, etc. He isn’t crying so you shouldn’t either. He does mention ring-rust but Forrest was in the same boat so that’s no excuse. Jackson had a few chances but Forrest took those exchanges like a true champion so get over it and wait for the rematch.
http://www.truveo.com/UFC-86-Quinton-Jackson-post-fight-press-conference/id/2595276091
EXRAIDED, you are clearly a Rampage fan your views are clearly bias. I agree that you cant call a fight on aggression alone but you have to look at it objectively as well.
I said that Forrest won 3 and maybe even 4 rounds. Forrest cuts easily and was cut early. You get points for the strike that did the damage, you don’t get points in later rounds because your opponent is bleeding from an earlier cut so it doesn’t matter how much blood was lost. This isn’t like the music industry where you get paid royalties. As for the personal insults they’re easy to make over the internet when you can remain anonymous and that’s all I’m going to say about it.
Well you’re obviously a Forrest lover and you haven’t sat down and watched the fight round by round in a non biased fashion.
Jackson landed a significant amount of clean punches during the fight.
Griffin landed only a few clean punches, half a dozen at most.
Griffin landed a lot of leg kicks, but no where near as many as as Jackson landed clean punches.
Jackson took forrest down once, Forrest took Jackson down once.
Forrest couldn’t do any damage to Jackson when he had him on the ground and neither could Jackson to Forrest.
Jackson landed a lot more clean shots and that should have been the difference.
If you break it down, Jackson won the 1st round, lost the second, won the 3rd, EASILY won the 4th. and the 5th could have gone either way.
forrest is more of the technical fighter. if u watch the ultimate fighter he always tells his corner to just stay on top pretend to work. just win the round. his style isnt the BEAT HIM UP its more how to score points.
you could say hes a smart fighter but in my opinion he can just take punches and win by decision. if u look at his fight record its most decisions
Im not really a forrest fan, but his ground game was better that rampage. just because Rampage held the top position doesnt mean he won that part of the fight. Forrest actually defended himself very well on the ground, in fact he got a few punches in. I would,t give that ground fight to rampage. maybe you need to rewatch the fight and think about it not just as a boxing match but more of a full fight.
He was devastated because he got robbed. He knew that making a big fus about it would just make it worse for him so why would he. His coaches and trainers would have told him not to speak out or it would just make his day worse.
Team.
Griffin won this fight, did you even see him on the ground? Their stand up game was pretty evenly matched, but on the ground rampage was way too slow, he had nothing on forest.
Case closed.
How was stand up evenly matched. Griffin landed maybe 14 leg kicks the whole fight with maybe 5 clean punches. While Jackson landed at least 30 or more clean punches. Griffin was on Jackson for a whole round, couldn’t do any damage with elbows or punches while he was on top and tried 3 times for a submission and failed. Jackson’s defense was too good.
it was a close fight the second round and the fact that forrest stayed busy and was always going a rampage was the reason he won rampage had the bigger shots but only the uppercut in the 1st really hurt forrest forrest won he deserved it he fought the better fight he fought smarter the rampage
page did NOT win. dispite what everyone is saying, he may have dilivered more effective strikes, but a fight is juged on striking, grappling, aggression and cage control, this was an mma fight, not a boxing match. FORREST won any educated MMA fan who viewed the fight objectivley could see that. most of the people on this board are PAGE fan who need a diaper change, get over it.
The single reason Forest won the fight was Octagon control. He was able to dominate positioning on Rampage the entire fight. If Rampage would’ve checked more leg kicks early and pushed forward to claim the center of the Octagon he would’ve won the fight. His gameplan was to hang back and look for a knockout combination and he failed to execute it, great fight.
Yer but they score the fighters round by round. And although overall Griffin might have been the aggressor and had more cage control, Jackson won 3 out of the 5 rounds.
Going by your opinion that means Tito beat Machida. He was the aggressor, had more cage control, and had better grappling.
There’s no way this fight was even close to being tied. Yea Rampage landed a COUPLE solid hits but other than that he had a few skims and title intimidation. Forrest on the other hand slaughtered Rampage with the leg kicks, his ground game was more superior than anything Rampage has anywhere in his arsenal and he landed just as many solid punches as Rampage. It was fair, Forrest deserved it, and Rampage knows it.
You’re obviously a Forrest lover so of course you’re going to say that. You need to sit down and actually watch the fight with a non biased opinion. He struggled to land any clean punches where Rampage continued to land clean punches throughout the whole fight. Yer sue he landed a few leg kicks but his ground game wasn’t even good. When he was on top he couldn’t do any proper ground and pound or submit him after 3 attempts.
glad to see two warriors give it everything they’ve got, much respect to both of them and for all those people who tell others that chasing down a stupid dream is impossible its good to see one of us make it congrats Forrest. I guess Rampage owes Forrest his purse big payday for Griffin and Rampage should start looking for a new trainer.
James you like Griffin more so obviously you’re going to agree that he won.
I would usually say anything bad about the judges but the bottom line is sometimes the judges get it wrong. And it has happened before.
Just like Hamil beat bisping but the judges gave it to bisping.
Even in pride, Ninja Rua beat Jackson but somehow the judges gave it to jackson.
Just like in the Liddell Jardine fighter, that should have been a unanimous decision but one judge gave it to Chuck just because he’s Chuck.
Rampage didnt really fight forrest did he was active just for that aggrssion he had it
lol at all these Griffin lovers. You’re an idiot Steb, Griffin struggled to land a clean punch throughout the whole fight while Rampage continued to land clean punches throughout the whole fight.
Although it doesn’t suprise me that everyone is giving the win to Forrest because he has have a much larger fan base than Jackson.
was a great fight but i have a question. who wins?
Ring control and aggression only really come into it when neither of the fighters have landed many shots or done anything to each other on the ground. Jackson landed a lot more clean punches than Griffin while Griffin struggled. Jackson had Griffin on the ground twice, sure he didn’t do much to him on the ground but either could Griffin when he had Jackson on the ground. All Griffin could do was attempt submissions but fail miserably three times in a row. You don’t get points for attempted submissions by the way. And Griffin didn’t do any decent ground and pound so that is cancelled out.
But like i said before the UFC always ahve been racially motivated. White man is the champ lets get the black man fight him and see who reign supreme. The black man has the Title Belt lets face him off against a white man. Dan Henderson , nope beat, Forrest Griffin lets give him the title shot although there’s been other fighters that has to go through years and opponents to even come near the chance for a TITLE FIGHT!
What makes Forrest Griffin so special? Only Named fighter he’s fought was Shogun, and won , then all of a sudden his balls grew because he had beaten an Injured fighter! LOL! AND EVEN THEN HE STILL SHOULD HAVE NEVER GOTTEN THE CHANCE TO FIGHT FOR THE TITLE! WHY I’M SURE FIGHTERS LIKE RANDY COUTOURE , TITO, CHUCK LIDDELL ARE WONDERING THE SAME THING!
Leaves me to think what i think and that is this whole “Organization” is or have been touched by corruption!
Forest looked very disciplined in the match. I have never seen a Rampage so cautious. Rampage was hurt early. Forest controlled the tempo. Not a very exciting fight. But the better overall fighter in this match was Forest. Would like to see a rematch.
Yer the UFC planned the whole “lets make Forrest champion” scheme. They knew he had a big fan base and he was also the original ultimate fighter so he would be a perfect candidate to be champion. He was suppose to win his fights with Bonnar, Jardine, Ramirez and then get a title shot but he slipped up with Jardine. So then they throw him in the ring with Shogun and he wins and then they build him up and make it look like he deserves a title shot, even though he only beat Shogun because he was injured. So then they give him a shot and he gets the fight giving to him when he didn’t even win. The fact that he got a title shot before people like Jardine, Machida, Evans, Liddell, and Wanderlei just shows that it was set up.
Exraided, when did “DEVASTATING BLOWS! FACT!” occur. doesnt a devastating blow have to Devastate the opponent? I’m not so convinced that Forrest was devistated. by the way your talking a lot of trash for bieng a computer geek yourself. what makes you such an athaurity on UFC, are you a UFC fighter? I dont claim to be a world champion, but I did watch the fight and it was close, and you have to understand all of the different aspects of the fight to be able to judge which are more valuable in which situations. you must have lost a lot of money on this fight to be so pissed about it.
You don’t win fights by being the aggressor and having ring control. Rampage landed more blows on the feet, took Forrest down more and did more to Forrest on the ground. Plus he clearly won 3 out of the 5 rounds. People are only saying Forrest won the fight because they’re a fan.
why does everyone have to come up with conspiricy theories about corruption. ITS FIGHTING, THATS WHAT PEOPLE DO IN FIGHTING!!!! rampage should have just knocked forest out if he was so good. but no, he played forrest’s game and lost at it. its his fault not forrest or the UFC’s. this isn’t your moma’s back yard its real fighting and real life people.
forrest clearly won on the ground, rampage failed to do anything when he had the better possition. forrest alwayse got out, and in fact he got punches in. I like Rampage I think he a good fighter, i bet on rampage to win, but he lost because he played forrests game. he lost on the ground and by bieng to coy. forrest had control of the match and in fighting thats actually important.
Forrest didn’t do anything when he had the better position either. He was on top the whole round, tried 3 submissions and failed and could barely land a clean blow. How does that count as him “winning” on the ground.
Let me see why Rampage Strikes were more accurate and packed a more power behind it! I think it had partly to do when Forrest Griffin’s leg started to do the wobble wobble in the first round, or maybe it had something to do with the fact when Forrest Griffin dropped to the floor and had to take a good glance of a big black man to rejog his memory that he’s in the Octagon? Or maybe the notion Rampage’s blows were more devastating due to the fact every time Forrest stood toe to toe with Jackson he would quickly cower?
Ok, I thought the fight was an amazing fight. But Forrest clearly won. He took Rampages best shot and did not get knocked out. Also, he fought a smarter fight. Even though Jackson landed some shots, Forrest didnt stay close enough for Rampage to land good combinations. Forrest on the other hand, landed alot of combos often ending with a kick. Not to mention that Forrest was the aggressor the entire fight. Forrest dominated the ground game. When rampage was on top, he could do nothing Forrest. And it lead to Forrest scrambling to his feet. Anyone who thinks Jackson won the fight is retarded. Maby if Rampage fought like him normal self, like against Chuck and Dan Henderson he would have won. But tonight was Forrest’s night. No doubt about it.
Exraided and tim are douche bags
SCORING OF THE OCTAGON:
1.Based on Effective Striking-Rampage
2.Grappling-Forrest
3.Aggression-Forrest
4.Octagon Control-Forrest
ya griffin won , damn man why rampage didnt change his game plan after his leg is sore he should know he got no ko power no more he should went close clinch knees or take down man rampage has no fighten spirit no more rampage is done griffins a stud hes more smart than rampage. i think wanderlei showed him a few kicking style and it did work man i want to see a rematch cos rampage a loser under estimate him rampage sux good fight thou
forrest did attempt some things, he may not have executed to the best of his ability. rampage did NOTHING on the ground except get hit and let forrest escape. you must have watched a different fight if you saw different. rampage hits hard, why would forrest stand there and take it, ofcourse he’s gonna move away. you guys just want to argue to argue
Yer alright A-dog, maybe post an educated opinion next time instead of just insulting people.
The rule is effective striking, grappling, aggression, and octagon control. Oh and by the way, there is no rule about “dominating” or “taking” the fight from the champ to become champ. the rule is you must “win” just like any other ufc fight.
Round 1: Forrest shows better aggression and octagon control but rampage’s striking is slightly better 10-9 RAMPAGE
Round 2: Forrest dominates grappling the whole round (mount), as well as octagon control. Rampage shows nothing. 10-8 FORREST
Round 3: The striking is so close that there is no clear winner so this is where octagon control and aggression come into play for forrest. 10-9 FORREST
Round 4: Each fighter shows some powerful striking but Rampage came out on top. 10-9 RAMPAGE
Round 5: After reviewing this round 3 times, I still see no way that you can say rampage won. Forrest’s punches may not be as hard as rampage’s, but his kicks (to the head as well as the leg) were very good. Also, Forrest did win some of the punching exchanges(watch it again). Forrest landed beautiful knees at the very end of the round. Again, the aggression and octagon control both go to Forrest. 10-9 FORREST
Therefore 48-46 FORREST. The UFC is not rigged. tonight was not Rampage’s night. Forrest had to be careful not to be knocked out by the more powerful rampage in oreder to win this fight and he did exactly that. Forrest showed that he can fight a smart fight and not get too excited. True fans of MMA know that there is more to winning than just blasting away and seeing who knocks out who. I know that many of you were let down because forrest was able to evade the knockout while still bringing an aggressive bout to rampage. My personal belief is that Rampage was not prepared mentally and Forrest was at the top of his game.
If you’re scoring the 2nd round a 10-8 round to Forrest than you have to score the 4th round a 10-8 to Rampage. He landed 12-15 solid punches, took him down, landed a couple of elbows when he was on top and then slammed Forrest when he tried for a triangle. And what did Forrest do in that round? Nothing, maybe landed a leg kick.
it wasnt a slam, forest escaped.
The 3rd round clearly went to Rampage. He landed way more punches where Griffin struggled to land one. In terms of aggression Forrest may have won but in terms of cage control, every time Rampage started landing punches, Forrest backed right up which is a smart thing to do but that counts as effective cage control for Rampage.
It was still a slam, he did pull out of the triangle at the last moment but Jackson still slammed him. You’re blind if you don’t think so.
if your gonna call all of forrest’s arm lock and submission attempts not valid, then that slam is definately not valid. be consistant
He threw him onto the mat, how is that not a slam. Forrest was smart enough not to fully hold on because if he did he would have been in big trouble but it was still a slam. Did Forrest submit Rampage? No he didnt, so all of his submission attempts failed.
as far as slams go that was a failure. just like rampages attempt at beating Forrest.
What a great fight. Both guys are awesome but Forrest clearly won. Forrest kept moving, he went after Rampage, he was much more aggressive than Rampage, Forrest had many more defensive moves that kept him out of trouble. Rampage has a dangerous punch but that is about all he really had going for him and he did not have too many of those. Forrest is a true competitor and a tough kid!! I don’t want another rematch between those two…Forrest needs to move up and on!!
so your judging this like a boxing match? its not boxing its MMA, different rules. punches arent the only way to score. do you watch MMA or just usually Boxing?
ALWAYS GOTTA KEEP THE COLORED FOLKS THE MINORITY 1 STEP LOWER THAN THE WHITE MAN!?
THE ONE’S WHO DISAGREE ARE THE ONES WHO WANT TO STAY 1 STEP AHEAD!
playing the race card cause thats all you have left
be first to act and you will win. make the other play your game and you will win. this is what forrest did. I dont think Forrest is a racist, he actually respects Rampage. whay are you a racist Exraided?
Rampage landed more blows throughout the match. Blows include kicks.
You don’t get points for submission attempts and you don’t get points for laying on your opponent because that’s basically all Forrest did in the 2nd round.
ARe you a moron? I never said Forrest is a Racist? WTF gave you that idea! I know beacause you’re an idiot!
Forrest Griffin is just a pawn!
The race card really how can you disprove that it havent been played alrdy people can deny allthey want and you’ll have the ones who will say otherwise and its a never ending cycle!
How the hell do you know or be able to say it had nothing at all to do with the outcome of this fight!?
forrest Dominated the second round. he did elbow rampage, albiet weakly. Forrest isnt as powerful as Rampage so Obviously its not going to look as hard as a Rapmage hit. you do get points for dominating the opponent and that is what forrest did. rampage had a lot of strikes but not enough to counter Forrests domination on the ground, knee kicks, knees and aggressiveness in the ring. There are some good points that you and your guy Exraided make but the race card is totally disqualifying your argument. Thats the way out of a person who doesnt know how to express their frustrations. Forrest won and the judges saw it right!
Mike…I truly hope the comment you just made about punches and boxing was not directed to me and my comments. Because if it was you should have seen that I mentioned punching at the end because that was all Rampage did effectively, in my opinion. And there is no doubt that Rampage has a great striking ability when he lands them. Forrest controlled the octagon by far with his more aggressive moves, kicks, attacks, his grappling styles, his defense (especially on the ground), and the pace of the rounds. Maybe you need to get a message to Rampage that the MMA is much more than just boxing…. not me sweety!!!
This was a great fight. Forrest won three rounds to two with a dominating second round. I was surprised Rampage did not do more when he had Forrest on the ground. He should have kept going with those body punches. Overall a great fight.
If you break it down round by round. Rampage clearly won 3 out of the 5 rounds. You can’t give Forrest the fight because overall he may have been more aggressive. If you look at it your way. Tito beat Machida because he was more aggressive, had cage control, better on the ground.
Ant, Forrest did not win three rounds. Rampage won the first, Forrest dominated the 2nd, Rampage won the 3rd, Rampage dominated the 4th, and the 5th could have gone either way but i would probably give it to Forrest. Either way Rampage won 3 out of 5.
I was actually looking at a forum and it was the Judges score card. And they all agreed that the 2nd round was a 10 8 round thats what killed Rampage in that fight. If it would have been a regular 10 9 round it would have been very close and probably a draw.
Its pointless…. sigh . Domination on the ground huh? He laid on top of Rampage the whole 2nd round he rubbed his elbows in Rampage’s face here and there if you called that dominating, okay sure I gave you that., but what about when Rampage had a mount on Forrest? You mofo act like that never happen!
It just goes to show you the morons I’m arguing with! LOL!
“This is how it goes and that’s FINAL!” Yea that’s the mentality these idiots have! No point in continuing this. Rather go talk to a wall has more sense!
DON’T LET THE JUDGES DECIDE. Judges have different scoring methods. Thanks for the free video.
If they gave Forrest a 10-8 round in the second well then they would have to give Rampage a 10-8 in the 4th. Because Rampage landed 12-15 solid punches, took him down, landed a couple of blows when he was on top and then slammed him. So he was the aggressor, better cage control, landed way more blows, better on the ground, got a take down. And what did Forrest do? Land a measley leg kick.
Very good fight… Rampage stole the first round,Forrest dominated the second with an easy 10-8 round, third round was close but I thought rampage did more damage,fourth was close but I gave forrest that round,in the final round Forrest pulled an Oscar Delahoya and ran the whole time….NO WAY he won that round!! If I were judging I would have given that 10-8 to Rampage!! He won the fight but Forrest is a stand up guy and I’m happy for him…They have to do that again! Note to Rampage:Check that Kick!!
Tim is a freaking Genius! It’s true. If the Judges gave Forrest Griffin 10 - 8 on the Second Round. They would have to give Rampage a 10 - 8 for the 4th Round! Rampage landed 12 - 15 Solid Punches , took Griffin down, landed a couple of blows while on top and then Slammed him. So Rampage was everything you’ve stated that allowed Forrest Griffin the Win. Rampage was the “Aggressor” “Had Cage Control” “Landed More Blows” “Better on Ground” and to even it up also got a “Take down” As for Forrest he landed a measly leg kick!
I’m not saying Rampage fought a perfect fight, not by any means. He should have at least attempted to check Griffin’s kicks, he should have tried to do more ground and pound when he he had top position, and he also should have been more aggressive. But it still doesn’t change the fact that he won 3 out of the 5 rounds so he should have won the fight.
Yea i think rampage lost his punching power from the leg kicks early on… should have been a knockout…
Forrest won…there was nothing memoreable that rampage did to secure the victory…yes he landed a good punch that droped griffen however, forrest landed puches along with many leg kicks that hurt rampage. Also a take down and had rampage in a triangle. Forrest also controlled the octogon better and landed more knees in the clinch…I gave the first to rampage….2nd forrest…3rd forrest…4th rampage….5th forrest…hell of a fight though
Everybody’s gotta get off of their Rampage high horses man. The match wasn’t rigged by the company, Forrest won it fair and square because he brought more to the fight. It’s that simple.
there better be a rematch because that was garbage RAMPAGE should won that fight he conected on more punches then forrest did. forrest won 2 periods maybe its just like when michael Bisping fought matt hamill the UFC is starting to get a little to shady for me
I had it scored
Round 1 = 10-9 Rampage
Round 2 = 10-9 Forrest
Round 3 = 10-8 Forrest
Round 4 = 10-9 Rampage
Round 5 = 10-9 Forrest
Forrest = 48
Rampage = 46
Mc how could Forrest win the fifth by running is that part of the criteria these days. This is not boxing! The 2nd round saved him! But it should have at least been a draw!
rampage did a great job although throughout the whole fight hes been wabling on his injured leg from the kicks..the reeson why he couldnt knock griffin out was because he couldnt shift any power into his punch because of hes weekened leg..they both did a great job but griffin slightly took the fight
First Round - Jackson 10 - 9 - Near Knockout, totally the agressor .
Second Round - Griffin 10 - 8 - Jackson is crippled by a kick to the knee and does nothing the entire round except survive. He’s nearly choked out.
Third Round - Jackson 10 - 9 - Jackson slowly recovers from the kick in the 2nd round and takes no more damaage to the knee this round or the entire fight. Despite not being the agressor, he lands solid counter strikes. This probably the hardest round to score along with the 5th.
Fourth Round - Jackson 10-9 - Solid take down along with a lot of clean strike damage to Forest. He dominated the entire round despite having to escape the triangle hold. You can’t give this round to Forest for an unsuccessful triangle hold.
Fifth Round - 10 - 10 even - No one really did anything this round. There were a few solid kicks from Griffin and a few nice counterstrikes from Jackson, but nothing to give a clear advantage to either fighter.
Jackson 48 Griffin 47 IMO. If you give the 3rd round to Griffin for agression I would understand and see the fight the other way, but I favor the damage over the aggression.
2 of the judges gave griffin both the 3rd and 5th round, which is really bogus resulting in the 48 - 46 score. The other judge gave Griffin the 4th round, which is basically insane.
even if it went 10 rounds, griffin would still have won
AKM that was the dumbest comment i have ever seen. The match went 5 rounds and Rampage won 3 out of those 5 so he won the fight.
And Adam i agree with you in that damage is more important than aggression. You can be aggressive all you like but if you’re not landing the punches then why should that count for anything. Griffin was more aggressive but he struggled to land punches where as Rampage continud to land punches and Griffin would retreat everytime Rampage started landing combos so that gives Rampage effective cage control.
WOW, they score the fight round by round. Rampage won 3 out of those 5 rounds so he won the fight. And if you’re going to say Griffin won the 2nd round 10-8, then Rampage won the 4th 10-8 because he landed 12-15 clean and solid strikes, took him down, landed a couple of blows when he had top position, slammed him and then when Griffin got up, Jackson continued to land punches. All Griffin did in the whole round was land one half asked leg kick.
Do you think that using caps give your post more merit? LOL
I don’t think griffin did enough to take a title. I say they do it again. I think griffin will be a wash and rinse champion. Although i must say i am a griffin fan……………
Forrest one you douche bags…It’s not rigged at all…Forrest controlled rampage on the ground..He got points on the near submission….When rampage slammed him griffin smarts came into play again by grabbing his leg to stop the slam…All you guys saying rampage won are throwing out bias opinions that just shows the fact that you have no business putting your two cents in if your going to be so bias…Go watch wwe you tool boxes! I like rampage but the dude lost, he should of been more aggressive, but he couldn’t because he got his knee buckled..Which was good tactic on forrest’s part…..The’ll fight again
they just want coach vs student, liddel vs forest
OK seriously, Rampage either won or it should have been a draw, I will break it down.
Round 1 - Rampage got more total hits in than Griffin(that includes kicks too) and griffin was running around the cage, Rampage dropped griffin and had one really nice combo. 10 - 9 Rampage.
Round 2 - Nothing to say here, Griffin controlled the round and the ground and had devastating kicks, even though he did nothing to Rampage on ground, 10 - 8 Griffin is reasonable(I think 10 - 9 for Griffin cuts it a bit short as Griffin really did deserve more).
Round 3 - Edge for Rampage, got more punches in and this in this round, Rampage really dodged the kicks of Griffin, and I mean dodged, Griffin hardly landed any kicks and Griffin was a bit cautious as he was testing Rampage’s knee with a lot of fake kicks for at least half the round, 10 - 9 Rampage.
Round 4 - Complete domination by Rampage, Griffin got some kicks, Rampage took his to the floor, I think score is 10 - 9 for Rampage(could be 10 - 8 but that is a bit stretched).
Round 5 - This round Rampage was aggressive, although he didn’t really finish the fight that great he just started throwin punches near the end, and griffin did end up running a lot. 10 - 9 Rampage, or you could even have this round at a tie since Griffin did land some hits in that round. That gives 2 results.
48 - 46 or 48-47, Rampage still wins. Forrest did give him a great run but I think to give that win to Forrest is not really right, and deserving, Just my 2 cents.
Is exraided still at school? Did he have special permission to stay up and watch the fight? Did he save all his ‘car wash at weekends’ money to afford PPView? ….What a low-brow, foul-mouthed, neanderthol - with an IQ to match his body temperature!
It was a close fight. Who cares who won. They will have a re-match. Eveyone involved will make a bucketload of money. Then exraided can come back on the internet and talk big through his sphincter, again.
Rampage new he lost just look at his face when they were waiting for the word.Dispite what any of you haters say that tells you who won….Forrest won fair and square you all know it so stop tring to make yourself belive other wise…New champ all hail fedor…..
closest fight ive ever seen but griffin had the edge for sure…never thought it wud happen even tho i was goin for griffin. there will deff be a rematch sometime down the road, if griffin can keep the title that is.
its turning into some wwf stuff if you ask me. i think its all about the money. its good promo for the rematch. c’mon brotha to be the champ you gotta knock him out. that forrest couldn’t accomplish. therefore rampage should still be the champ. funny thing is i picked griffin to win. trip on that!
Matt, we’re not taking anything away from the fighters, they both fought great fights and gave it their all but at the end of the day Rampage won the fight so he should have kept his title.
Forrest won this fight, and that’s all there is too it.
Did Rampage have better, cleaner, stronger punches? Hell yes he did. BUT, he just simply was not aggressive enough with them. Forrest simply scored more. He was aggressive, and for the most part controlled the octagon the entire time. He worked nearly the whole fight, were as Rampages was definitely working, but seemed flat after that leg injury.
Taking out a power punchers legs can completely destroy their ability to throw effective punches, witch is why we didn’t see that KO power, and aggressiveness we normally see from Jackson. Just look at the Jardine/Liddel fight.
Don’t get me wrong, I wanted Jackson to win just as much as anybody, I’m a huge fan. The UFC is already in talks for an IMMEDIATE rematch, and if it goes through, I predict Rampage to destroy Forrest.
Anyone who has any sence knows that rampage won this fight. This is why i dont watch this sport all this gights are fixed. ALL of them. Watch Boxing watch football but dont buy in into this crap.
You can’t just win a fight by simply being aggressive. Rampage landed twice as many shots as Griffin.
Rampage did exactly what Machida did to Tito, he was smart about his striking and that’s why he landed so many clean punches where Griffin struggled to land any punches and could only land leg kicks. You saw Griffin’s face by the end of the fight, it was a mess. If you count a fight on aggression and cage control then Tito beat Machida.
Most of the the punches that Forrest threw landed but they just were not effective. Rampage threw probably two times more punches than Forrest but most of them missed or were blocked. sure does punches were devastating but judges dont score the round on damage.
Griffin Rulez UFC
O_o im hungry
Let’s face the fact, Rampage was artificially created and he has zippo skills. So what, he can throw a couple of punches. It’s painfully obvious that he hasn’t the intellect to be a real champ. MMA at the highest levels requires brains as well as brawn. Those with the low IQ go the way of the dodo bird.
I suggest that he try the Special Olympics.
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Listen here for all of you who posted the crys for rampage, yes he landed more dominating shots. but a shot that dosent bring some 1 down fully scores the same as a shot thats jus clean landed.. rampage landed tons of clean shots. a couple wobbled forest 1 even put him down. but there all jus even points besides the punch that downed him, forests made up for every punch rampage threw with his legg kicks then dominated points with the triangle, the full second round domination scoring an outstanding amount more then rampage. and yes there was some cuts on forest. but cuts n brooses dont score points. if u dont like the scoring system and you think you know better then the jugdes go back to wrestling cause your not ready to look at the overall fight and just a few lil picks.
hmmm…its hard for me to score the fight because i don’t know how a mma fight is suppose to be scored..in my opinion i think page won..but my opinion doesn’t really mean squat..because the judges obviously thought different..so could someone explain to me how its scored..so you get rewarded for almost locking in submissions(well it was completely locked)..and if so shouldn’t you get points for getting out of them(like in real wrestling how you get points for escapes)..but ionno man..forest did dominate on the ground..quinton couldn’t do anything when he was in forrests guard..but then again page one every exchange in my eyes..and i saw someone say forrest landed more punches..i dont know who it was..but where you watching this fight???..and those leg kicks were very effective and in my opinion probably won forrest the fight..so i don’t know i wanna see a rematch..congratulations to forrest
WOW!!! did you people not watch the fight!? it was a unanimous decision and a blow out on the score cards. rampage wasnt agresive ,didnt have any cage control,and was dominated on the ground. all griffen had was knee kicks?? ha! it was a great fight no diss on rampage hes a great fighter but absolutly lost this fight a few good head shoots looks good on camera but rampage was the one limping and gasping for air after that fight
At what point did Rampage “Take” Forrest to the ground? You mean the part where Forrest put his leg behind Rampages and pulled guard, oh yeah I remember that. Or is there some other time Rampage took him to the ground. I am just trying to see so I understand.
Im a huge forrest fan and dont like rampage and the first time i watched it i couldnt understand how anyone thought that went to rampage but my fighter buddy couldnt believe i thought that so i watched it again a 2nd time and scored it this way.
1 - 10-9 Rampage
2 - 10-8 Forrest
3 - 10-9 Rampage
4 - 10-9 Rampage
5 - 10-9 Forrest
which comes to 47-47 so it should have been a draw or the champ since its tru you should have to out right beat the champ not get the edge on a close call but thats my opinion.
go champ Forrest Griffin
There are so many Rampage fans on here that simply don’t understand MMA.
They keep telling Forrest fans to watch the video in a “non-bias” way and then use terms like “Rampage land devastating blows” and “got a power-bomb, slam.”
Do I think Forrest “obviously” won the fight? No. But I can see how the judges reached their score. It’s not a stretch. Forrest fought a good fight. He was the aggressor for most of the fight (a scoring factor in the UFC). He was always working. He dominated in the 2nd round. His failing at three submissions doesn’t make it any less dominating. He controlled most of the fight. Rampage “took Forrest down” only when Forrest screwed up his own take down. And unlike Rampage, he worked two different submission attempts from the bottom (some moron actually suggested that Rampage won the ground game?)
I think Forrest did enough to win. I think that if Rampage had done more to get out of the mount in the 2nd round, he’d still be champ though. He claims that he was resting…and that’s quite possible, but it looked bad. It looked like he was totally dominated, and that likely left a bad impression in the judge’s mind that lasted until the end of the fight.
Anyway, there will be a rematch. People quit griping about the UFC being fixed….there are other conspiracies out there for you to bust…like the Illuminati or something. I hear they meet in a secret mountain resort called The Meadows.
i say it was a tie yeah rampage landed alot of good shots but those leg kicks hurt like hell griffin should of let him up in the second round n finish rampage instead of keepin him on the ground so he could
rest n rapmage should have finished griffin in the first but griffin is tuff n can take a punch so it wouldnt be so easy cant wait for the rematch
What…. should have let him up!!!!!!His mount was one of the deciding factors victor come on brotha! he stands that’s rampages game….I’m new to these blogs but every time I get on here I’m just baffled….It is good to see some good input allen t……Keep blogging guys this actually is kind of fun…..The puzzled fans google mma, and look up the rules or chat it up with some friends, or watch more fights on this site..But keep posting even though some posting looks like the end of a scrabble game… ufc edition..It’s all good self expression is good, take care fellow mma fans ..peace love recycle fellas..
Rampage would have won if this was the WBC and not the UFC! People forget it’s not about just landing a few hard punches, it’s about octagon control and aggression too. Griffin was aggressive the entire match, not random burst of aggression displayed by Rampage. Forrest landed just as many punches (although weak) and took Rampage down more than Rampage took him down…not to mention the numerous submissions applied by Griffin. What kind of Champ is taken down on leg kick alone? Avoid those idiot!
Read this.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dm-ufcscoring070708&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Forrest definately won the fight, no question about it. Anyone who says otherwise is just a hater. Stop hating on Forrest, he’s the champ, DEAL WITH IT!!
Rampage looked to relaxed. If he was more aggressive and did more to contol the fight he would have been victorious. Forrest did what he needed and contolled the fight. He fought a solid fight.
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Wow that s a really difficult fight to score, what s obvious is that rampage won the first round and forrest won the second round, the next three rounds were kind of 50/50. The reason why the judges decided that forrest won is maybe because during the round that forrest won he almost finished the fight and showed complete domination, rampage couldn t get out of there. And during the round that rampage won, rampage scored more points but still forrest did pretty good, there wasn t such a huge difference like there was during the second roud that forrest won; plus the fact that forrest threw those leg kicks that badly hurt rampage. That was still very close, but i heard that usually, when there was a title fight and that the fight was more or less equal, they had to give it to the champ because you have to litteraly beat the champ to be the champ is that correct? Anyways very nice fight and i m glad to see such a nice spirit at the end between those two fighters, that was very inspiring. Thanx mmaroot for the vid.
forrest won the second round.thats about it. blocked punches dont count as points. you win rounds if youre active and connect, and rampages face is proof: no marks.
Something smells with this decision. Do you think Dana White and the execs with Zuppa didn’t somewhat want Forrest to win. This is the exact reason so many of us left boxing for MMA, political decisions in judging fights (not to mention MMA is just plain better). Just listen to Rogan’s commentary during the fight - he pointed out everything Forrest did right, even mentioned Forrest was winning the fight during mid-round 4? I hope the UFC rematches these 2 soon. Rampage was a man and was gracious in “defeat”, not sure why as he won the fight. Here is the true scorecard - decision should have went to Rampage.
Round 1 - Rampage 10/Forrest 9
Round 2 - Rampage 8/Forrest 10
Round 3 - Rampage 10/Forrest 9
Round 4 - Rampage 10/Forrest 9
Round 5 - Rampage 10/Forrest 9
Final scoring - Rampage 48/Forrest 46. Even if you give Forrest one of rounds 3-5, Rampage still wins. I don’t get it at all, probably the worst UFC decision I have ever seen. Clean it up UFC.
You said it for me too KAKIHARA…
Very good fight and Griffin desserved victory.
I just wanna say that this was an awsome fight! I didnt know what to expect, but I am happy with the results of the fight! To all the people hating of Griffin, I think he deserved the belt. He was more agressive than Jackson. He went in the cage with a strategy. He didnt just go in there without a game plan. He broke Jackson down a little bit at a time. Im not downing Jackson, but I think he got a little too over confident, and over confidence can cause you to lose, as we just witnessed. I think Jackson could have trained a little bit harder for this fight, and been more prepared. He seemed to have a cokiness going into this fight. All in all, I think it was a GREAT fight, and I think Griffin won the match fair and square. I didnt know what the outcome was gonna be, and I didnt have any expectations or bias. I like both fighters, and I think they both are awsome!
I cant wait for the re-match!
Forrest won the fight,{ First Round } - Rampage with the knock down { Second Round } - Forrest with some good Ground and Pound/ Rampage never landed a punch that round { Third Round } - Forrest had Rampage backing up most of the round and landed more punch/ kicks
{ Fourth Round } - Rampage more aggressive coming forward throwing some big punchs / takedown { Fifth Round } - Forrest just like the Third Round just did more then Rampage to win the round. { First Round } 10-9 /Rampage { Second Round } 10-8/Forrest { Third Round } 10-9/Forrest { Fourth Round } 10-9/Rampage { Fifth Round }
10-9/Forrest , Why did Rampage lose the fight cause he did nothing in the way of Ground and Pound / Second Round never landed 1 punch which was a 10-8 for Forrest / he was backing up more then he came forward and Forrest had more strikes then Rampage { Strikes being Punches / Kicks / Knees… I picked Rampage to win to but from what I saw from him , he wasn’t the same Rampage that Knocked out Liddell or Beat Henderson.. he lost that fight, and if you think he didn’t your a T.U.F/Forrest hater or a Rampage nut hugger
Forrest won that fair and square. Rampage only managed to land some decent punches whilst retaliating and attempting to create some space. Forrest kept pushing and landed far more accurate and technical shots.
It was a great fight, one of the better UFC fights i have seen for some time
I’m a big Griffin fan, but Jackson got robbed. I had it 4-1 Jackson. Even with the 10-8 suggested(forrest didn’t really do any damage) it would have been 48-46 Jackson. When i heard about the controversy I thought it was just a bunch of Jackson supporters whining, but man was I wrong. How does Jackson not win round 4? A draw would have been a bad choice. I love Griffin, but he did not win this fight.
Lets call it a robbery if i have ever seen one this was crazy the ufc is a bunch of actors if Forrest Griffin just one that fight
how can u guys say rampage got jipped? rampage had 1 solid round and that was the 3rd i even gave him the 4th but he was getting picked off the whole fight Forrest Griffin won that fight hands down. he never slowed down. even in the first round when he got rocked by 1 of the 15 punches rampage threw the whole round he still kept his cool and got back up. it was a really good fight and the next Rampage vs Griffin fight will be even better.
Round 1: 10 - 9 Rampage from the uppercut
Round 2: 8 - 10 Forrest because rampage did no damage after getting his leg hurt
Round 3: 9 - 10 Forrest he put together more combinations and landed more punches and kicks - rampage does hit harder but he didn’t punch enough in this round. Rampage is one of those fighters who doesn’t cut and has a hard chin so never looks hurt (like BJ or Chuck)
Round 4: 10 - 9 Rampage had a much better round and hurt forrest who pulled gaurd. But forrest was far more busy on the ground than rampage in the 2nd and had the traingle locked. It wasn’t a slam because Forrest let go - there was no impact as he fell onto the mat.
Round 5: 9 - 10 Forrest. This was a very close round which could have gone either way. I have forrest scoring more.
Forrest won the fight. Rampage didn’t. It isn’t an arguement so move on with your lives.
I thought that Rampage was totally giving Forest the fight.
It did seem to me that Rampage was not hungry enough to knock him out, which I totally think he could.
I do think that if the fight is fixed, that this would pave the way to give the belt back to Chuck. Because if this was a Chuck Liddel VS Forest Griffin match, Chuck would have walked away with title, no matter how close it was.
Lets face it, UFC definitely hands out some of the worst decisions.
hey thats what the judges do! b4 ne one thinks they know who wins the fight why dont we ask the judges ???/ thats there j o b . we just see the fight . way to go forest im a fan!!!
Rampage shouled have 1 4 reals tho he is the champ and eavin if it was close the champ shouled get it specialey if he realy did get more and bigger shots-in because as you can see thats what happened.but yea it was a reeeeal close-1……!
For all you Rampage fans who think Dana White screwed him over….say that now that Dana just posted a $25,000 bail because Rampage went on a driving Rampage. Dana White is the father of the UFC and Rampage is one of Dana’s many sons….Rampage fans show some respect for the man who made MMA what it is today
You have got to be kindding me Forrest won the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 5th round the only round I am giving Rampage is the 4th… he just didn’t do enough. Forest kept busy, sure Rampage caught him but he recovered quickly and got to his feet and even in the 4th Forrest was going for submissions off his back….the key is he was staying busy no matter where he was, plain and simple he scored more punches and kicks and controlled the octagon.
This fight was fun to watch. I do feel that thru the entire fight Rampage did more actual damage. Forest stayed busy no doubt. He did hurt rampages knee. Which explains why Rampage stayed on the ground the second round. He said it himself “he said he was trying to rest his leg and let it heal a little. That was where he made his biggest mistake, he basically gave that round away. I think he thought the same thing that alot of us thought. He is not getting hurt by Griffin, he is blocking almost all of Griffins punches and High Kicks, I will rest and then keep delivering heavy powerfull blows to him. The thing is thou I always thought that if you where going to take a Title from a Champ you had to, like someone else posted previously, “you have to beat him”. maybe that is just a boxing thing, I do not know. I think it should have gone an extra round like on the show. To me it was to close to take the Title. With that siad it is what it is and when Rampage comes after Griffin for the Title look out!
Rampage was not robbed!!! yeah Rampage made a few solid punches and sh!t! but try to count how many time Griffin landed some elbow leg kick and some punch and take down!!! all i can say is the Griffin define the word Sports, Tactic he knew a lot on this Sports and his using it well, he knew he won even Rampage knew Griffin won.
Forrest deserved it over the 5 rounds. It was a great fight though and either fighter could have won. Excellent sportsmanship.
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ok rampage maybe won the first round but the whole fight r u serious?? you guys obviously base your decision on who hits harder not who is keeping control griffin was in control almost the whole fight now i agree that rampage is a hell of a fighter and got real close to knockin griffin out but griffin maintained control throughout the fight
It should of been a draw Rampage won rounds 1,3,4. 10-9. Forrest may of been the agressor, however Rampage landed more and harder shots, rather than forrests jabs. Forrest may of had that triangle but he took some hard punches while in the stand up. Forrest did get a 10-8 2nd round, which was correct Rampage did nothing in that round whild Forrest manhandled him. He also got the 5th 10-9 with that hard jab, and his leg kicks. It was a clear cut draw. Love the Irony that Rampage lost by decision, after boasting he’d bet his purse that it wouldn’t go to the judges on the Ultimate fighter. The Fact still remains even though I admire how far Forrest has come, he did not win that fight……..
I’m gonna keep this short,Griffin went in and took care of business! He was the aggressor throughout the entire fight.Rampage won the first round but the the rest of the fight it was all Forrest.He controlled the ring most of the time,and kept control even from his back.
Rampage won? Even he admitted he lost. Before all you turnover WWE fans run your stupid mouths, know something about MMA. This isn’t boxing. Rampage was better on his feet, but Forrest DOMINATED on the ground, even from bad positions. Go chat on Vince McMahon’s blogs.
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That’s what I think!!! It’s fair and it would make great fights no matter what way it ends up…
I think it was a draw. Rampage won the 1st and 4th round, while Forrest won 2nd and 3rd round. However, I think the 5th round was way too close to decide but judges decided to give it to Forrest. Congrats Forrest
I’m very anti draw myself, there should be an outcome. And you have to know they are really not going to want to draw a fight that big. For all you Jackson fans, I love him too, but he did loose. Points proved it, I highly doubt 3 judges were paid off. I like both fighters just about equally and I also thought that forrest won. If you think about who was pressing action the entire fight it was pretty much forrest the whole time. You’re not going to impress a judge stepping backwards the whole fight, thats a simple truth.
I saw this fight live and thought that it was extremely close (dead even going into the last round) and that they were going to give it to Page.
But since then I’ve watched the fight a number of times and don’t think Forrest getting the win is controversial at all. The official scoring was a off, yes but now I have Forrest very clearly winning it 48-47. It really is this simple:
1. Page
2. Griffin
3. Griffin
4. Page
5. Griffin
I had every round a 10-9. You could make a case for the second being a 10-8, which gives Forrest a slight pad to his one point victory.
The more you watch the fight the more you see that Forrest outworked Rampage and was the more complete mixed martial artist. Rampage loaded up and went for the KO the whole fight. Forrest varied his attack and had multiple sub attempts.
I no longer in anyway believe that Rampage got the short end of the stick. He lost a close fight. End of story.
There is a case for Jackson, I think. Not taking away from Forrest, but I think that Jackson certainly landed some of the better shots.
I think that, whether or not Jackson SHOULD HAVE won the fight (uncertain) he certainly SHOULD be first in like for next fight. A REMATCH is certainly in order.
rampage has alot of talk i mean he is a good fighter but to much smack talk realy…. very glad forest one.
Forest Did what Iceman should have, put that nutjob on his back..
damn i thought rampage won when i first watched it but forrest just did more. i just scored it myself and came up with the same 48 to 46 score as the first 2 judges. hmmm maybe the judges arent rigged well except of course 4 bisbing. yeah rampage did hurt him more but he lost round 2 10-8 and took only round 1 and 4. maybe we should give forrest some credit finally…
wow exraided.. what do u think of rampages words at the end of the fight? when asked if the kicks to his knee were a big factor in the fight his reply was “no he just whooped my ***” when the fighter himself thinks he lost i think that kinda says who won the fight.
this fight has ruined my faith in the ufc
46-49 - that judge was clearly on some form of hallucinogenic .
in any championship match the contender should prove they are winner beyond reasonable doubt
now i just doubt the authenticity of the ufc
but hey that’s commercialism for ya
What a bunch of haters he won fair and square. Just because your boy got his a** beat don’t turn into a bunch of little whining bit**es! Be a real fan and take the lose like a man he did. Rampage is a great fighter Forrest is just better!